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Post by luciawak on Jun 10, 2007 7:51:24 GMT
Hi
Sorry for asking all these questions, I just want to make sure i am doing things right! Do you need parents to sign to say that it is alright for you to take pictures of their children? When my son was doing his primary teacher training it was quite a big issue due to pictures being posted on the internet. Thanks lucia
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Post by manjay on Jun 10, 2007 8:16:47 GMT
This is from the NCMA website
"A representative from the Children’s Legal Centre has told NCMA that there is no legal requirement to get parents’ permission before taking photographs of their children, but that it would be good practice to do so. NCMA has also been advised that anyone using photos of children should not put children’s full names and other identifying information alongside their photographs when they appear in publications and training course assignments, although, again, there is no law specifically prohibiting this. "
You can also get copies of the permission forms in their download section where parents can tick what is acceptable to them for you to do with photos.
Amanda xx
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Post by sarahnev707 on Jun 10, 2007 9:55:49 GMT
I got an action on this one 3 years ago at my last inspection - I'd just started taking photos cos we'd had a day out and the inspector was horrified I'd done it without written permission from all parents! I remember the look on her face - like how could I do it and not know!! I have a generic permissions request then if I take photos for a course or anything specific, i do a quick letter for parents to sign to give me the okay Sarahx
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Post by nannan on Jun 10, 2007 11:56:43 GMT
Hi, I have a standard form that I get the parents to sign saying I can photo their child, for observation records, for our display at home, etc. I think it helps if you have permission and get the parents to agree to this when they first start with you, I know it is more paperwork, but in the long run you are covering all avenues. mandy
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Post by deeb66 on Jun 10, 2007 13:01:39 GMT
I do the same as Mandy.
Dee
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Post by luciawak on Jun 10, 2007 13:46:39 GMT
Hi
Thanks everyone. It looks like the general opinion is to get parents permission whether or not it is a legal requirement! I suppose it is better to make sure that I have covered myself. After all the parents don't really know me and are perfectly entitled to be worried about their children especially the way things are today!
lucia X
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Post by angeldelight on Jun 10, 2007 18:13:32 GMT
I would never take a pic without permission from parents
I have got some children on my website and even on here but I have always asked and get them to sign a form
My daughter was at the wacky warehouse the other day with her nephews She said a lady was taking pictures of her own children when another lady went up to her and started a argument The other lady said you could see her own children in the background and she wanted her to delete them and re- do them with her children out the way !!!!
I have never really thought of it I am sure when I have taken my grandsons out like that someone has been taking pics and my grandsons have been in the background but I have never thought anything to be honest
What would anyone else do if their child ended up in someone elses phones ( as an accident or just in the background ?)
Angel xx
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Post by deeb66 on Jun 10, 2007 20:34:02 GMT
When I take pictures of the children I ensure that no other child is in frame occassionally there may be a group playing together but I never take a picture unless I have spoken to the parent and asked permission and even then I show them the picture afterwards.
When I am out and about I am very careful to ensure that people do not include my minded children in their pictures - if I see someone taking pictures I just explain that I am a minder and that I have not got permission for the children to be included - I have had to do this on several occassions and never had a problem as they general understand why my 'parents' would have concerns.
Dee
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Post by angeldelight on Jun 10, 2007 20:59:34 GMT
Sorry Dee I did not explain properly again haha
I do not mean your minded children I mean what do you do if you are out with your own children or grandchildren
I know we would do that for childminding children it is our job be alert and careful yes
But what about if your own child happened to be in the frame of someone else's pic would you ask the person to delete it like that lady did
Angel xx
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Post by carolinel on Jun 10, 2007 21:17:22 GMT
I don't think i'd stop anyone for taking photos as long as my children were just in the background and the subject matter wasn't out of the ordinary (if you get my meaning). Obviously you cant stereotype peodos but common sense would prevail if it was an old man without children taking pictures.
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Post by angeldelight on Jun 10, 2007 21:46:28 GMT
Yeah Caroline I feel the same
If it is a family group taking pics and my children / grandchildren were in the background I would not make a fuss
That lady where my daughter was made a very big fuss in fact she was screaming at the parents that they had better delete her childrens pic She said they had no right to have her in the background It was an accident too I understand because when I take pics of my own family I never really look to see what is in the background and I think that is what happened here I can see the womans point and I understand that you do have to be careful nowdays but I do think she over reacted
Angel xx
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Post by mayberry on Jun 11, 2007 4:17:56 GMT
I agree with Caroline and Angel comments
I wound like to add if you look around to see who’s in the photo shot you will miss the moment, if you know what I mean.
To have no other children playing in back ground that would be a great shame.
I would never take a pic of minded children without permission from parents
Dawn xx
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Post by luciawak on Jun 11, 2007 8:28:10 GMT
Hi
It hadn't even occured to me about other children being in the background etc. We are off to thorpe park today (after all i have to check out its suitability for children ha ha) and, no doubt, we will all be taking pictures of my grandson. How do you avoid getting other children in the background? And, more, to the point, what about the official photos that you can buy? I know most of the rides are aimed at older children but, I believe there are some kiddy rides! I wonder what people do in places like Disney World! I do think that the woman over re-acted but, at the end of the day, there are some very wierd people around and she was only protecting her children. Although, does she avoid crowded places with her children just to avoid them being photographed. It does make you wonder what the world is coming to! lucia
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Post by angeldelight on Jun 11, 2007 8:45:42 GMT
Yep I agree with you
It is very hard to stop things happening in the background and when I am taking pics of my own grandchildren I do not even check because like it was pointed out you could spoil the moment
I know you have to be careful these days but I do not fancy looking who is in the background every pic I take
When I am out with childminding children I am more careful but even then sometimes it is impossible not to have people in the background more so if it is a busy place
Anyway lucky you Lucia going out for the day , the weather is going to be nice so have a great day
Angel x
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Post by deeb66 on Jun 11, 2007 12:38:57 GMT
Sorry Angel - it was me a got the wrong end of the stick - should have put my spec on - lol!!!
I have re-read the posts (with glasses on this time!!!) and yes I have to agree with you all it was a bit over the top for this woman to be screaming - yes I do agree you have to be careful but there are limits!!
Lucia - Hope you have a good day at Thorpe Park ....you are only 10 - 15 mins away from where I am....weather a little overcast but at least it is not cold!
Dee
Dee
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Post by luciawak on Jun 11, 2007 18:16:35 GMT
Hi
Thanks. We had a great day at Thorpe Park. The weather was just right especially for a baby - not too hot and not too cold. Mind you the others all got soaked on one of the rides and were still shivering about an hour later - stupid fools. Anyway back to the photo taking. I found it really difficult to take photos of baby Josh without anyone else being in the frame. Even though it is a monday there were a surprising amount of children around - school age mainly (why weren't they at school anyway). Nobody seemed to bother much though but I must admit I was more careful than usual. Lucia X
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Post by deeb66 on Jun 11, 2007 18:24:55 GMT
Glad to hear you had a good time...when I told my son that I 'knew' a lady who was going to Thorpe Park today he frowned and said 'that's not fair'....he loves the place.
Dee
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Post by luciawak on Jun 12, 2007 15:26:38 GMT
My children still love it. Infact my 28 year old said yesterday that he thought it was one of the best around as it is not too big to walk around but has some really good rides. Not bad considering that he must have been to them all - Disney World, Alton Towers, Busch gardens etc. We are lucky to only be 20 mins away. Although I think the price they charge is unbelievable - even when you do it online. They even charge 50p for their park maps!
Lucia X
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Post by deeb66 on Jun 12, 2007 16:18:50 GMT
I know it is criminal how much they charge - I usually collect the tokens/vouchers so that you buy one ticket and get one free...Tesco were doing some of those not long ago and I got a few and will use them when we go.
Dee
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