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Post by rubybubbles on Oct 16, 2007 19:45:07 GMT
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Post by bella on Oct 16, 2007 19:58:21 GMT
just read the articles and was shocked its people like them who give us good childminders a bad name i really dont know what to do. Im not a tale tale but at the same time what about the children.
most parents dont know how many children you are allowed to have i bet if i asked one of mine tomorrow she wouldnt have a clue i was asked the other day how many i have in the holidays by a parent at the school when i told her 9 incuding mine she said gosh thats loads and do they count your own children so i clearly told her i could have 12 children at any one time but only 5 can be under 8 she couldnt believe it (you watch i will have ofsted at my door)
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Post by rubybubbles on Oct 16, 2007 20:05:41 GMT
just read the articles and was shocked its people like them who give us good childminders a bad name i really dont know what to do. Im not a tale tale but at the same time what about the children. most parents dont know how many children you are allowed to have i bet if i asked one of mine tomorrow she wouldnt have a clue i was asked the other day how many i have in the holidays by a parent at the school when i told her 9 incuding mine she said gosh thats loads and do they count your own children so i clearly told her i could have 12 children at any one time but only 5 can be under 8 she couldnt believe it (you watch i will have ofsted at my door) yep - but I always try to offer quailty not quanity!! (that make sense??) I have 2 more 5+ spaces but no plans in filling them |
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Post by susan on Oct 16, 2007 20:21:13 GMT
I had a friend who was a childminder and had to be reported but it was done annon as I didnt want it all to backfire on me. She had 14 kids all at one time during the school hols. Some days i can even manage my own 2 plus the 3 I mind for never mind 14 kids. The thing that angered me was that she had them all in her car which was only a 7 seater. To this day she is still my friend and doesnt know who it was that told tales. She thought she just had a spot inspection. what happened to her  ? xxx |
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Post by susan on Oct 16, 2007 20:32:26 GMT
OMG I cant believe what I've just read .......... |
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Post by lou on Oct 16, 2007 20:33:25 GMT
OMG i have just read those reports, never heard of that particular case before!! i cant believe she did that, how did she think that was ok? ?? i am gobsmacked!!!!!!!!!! it is true it is people like this this that bring our profession into disrepute. i think i would report her, as has been said you dont have to give your name and if she is doing something wrong thats her problem, you need to think of the safety and wellbeing of the children in her care. sorry i know its hard. loux |
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Post by rubybubbles on Oct 16, 2007 20:37:39 GMT
shocking really this is why If
you know she;s in breech report her - childminders like this give us a really bad name
(Gosh I must of been reading the papers well that week to rememebr hey lol)
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Post by bella on Oct 16, 2007 20:48:30 GMT
i have 2 under 5 the rest are school age or over 8 my own children are 5 and 11 plus in the holidays my partners children are often here age 10 and 15 but as i said these still count in my insurance i wish people would understand this as hey dont seem to realise this.
i am well within my numbers and wouldnt dream of going over as at the end of the day its my job that would be at stake
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Post by bella on Oct 16, 2007 20:53:32 GMT
have spoken to a local childminder and she is going to try and sort it out for me as i am really worried about it could you imagine if you was sending your child to a minder only to find out she was over her numbers and your child wasnt insured you might as well be paying a school child to look after them.
my partners eldest is as i said before is 15 and i wouldnt dream of leaving my child with him its just not worth it
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Post by rubybubbles on Oct 16, 2007 21:10:26 GMT
i have 2 under 5 the rest are school age or over 8 my own children are 5 and 11 plus in the holidays my partners children are often here age 10 and 15 but as i said these still count in my insurance i wish people would understand this as hey dont seem to realise this. i am well within my numbers and wouldnt dream of going over as at the end of the day its my job that would be at stake I hope you didn't feel I was making a dig (I tend to waffle on!!) I had 9 last yr, 1,2,4,4(school age),6,7,9,11,11!! I loved it but dh is away now and he is very hands on with my own two (now 3,5) and the older ones where only 4-5.30 and the younger ones went by 4.30!! And felt with him away I need to spend more time with my own too and it was hard to balance! |
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Post by bella on Oct 16, 2007 21:17:27 GMT
no i didnt think you was making a dig when i put that i wish people would realise i ment other parents at the school when you think about it if i have 9 next week and 4 are family i only have 5 minded children 3 are 8 1 is a year and the other is 5 and they all keep each other busy im normally only left with the baby so its often easier than in term time..
anyway back to this other minder goodness knows how many she is gonna have next week as all her children are full time and i really cant count how many school age she has what would the insurance number of children be if you had an asistant
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Post by rubybubbles on Oct 16, 2007 21:25:22 GMT
no i didnt think you was making a dig when i put that i wish people would realise i ment other parents at the school when you think about it if i have 9 next week and 4 are family i only have 5 minded children 3 are 8 1 is a year and the other is 5 and they all keep each other busy im normally only left with the baby so its often easier than in term time.. anyway back to this other minder goodness knows how many she is gonna have next week as all her children are full time and i really cant count how many school age she has what would the insurance number of children be if you had an asistant good phew!! Yes to them keeping each other busy!! Keep us posted on what happens next ( no doubt I little tap and carry on grrr) |
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Post by bella on Oct 16, 2007 21:32:32 GMT
will do. But please dont think im a tale tale im a really down to earth easy going caring person couldnt really give a monkeys how many children she as as long as though they are safe (which by going over numbers they are not) i really like this forum and would love to think of people on here as friends (not having them think they cant trust me) as you can.
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Post by jenni on Oct 16, 2007 21:44:15 GMT
She doesnt sound like the type of person I would want to leave my children with, I cant believe she is a childminder!!!!! In total shock  |
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Post by jo on Oct 17, 2007 19:10:01 GMT
Just read that link omg! This is a very difficult situation to be in. How dare she boast!!! Its very easy to give advice when you are not emotionally involved, and I tell you this if it was me I would be making myself ill with worry whatever the decision I make. I agree with so many others that if you are 100% that she is breeching her terms, think of the kids before an accident happens. You will never forgive yourself. She doesn't need to know who it was. I'm surprised that none of the parents have said anything unless they are not that clued up on it. |
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Post by angeldelight on Oct 17, 2007 19:18:22 GMT
OMG I have only just read that link
That is disgusting it really is
How on earth could she call herself a childminder
I am really shocked and I can not believe no one picked up on this before - like a parent
I mean in that report it says there was only a small area for the children to play - well did no one notice this when they went on their first visit to see this woman
Amazing story I am so glad that she got found out
Angel xx
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Post by bella on Oct 17, 2007 20:11:53 GMT
i asked one of my parents today how many children i was registered for and how many over 8s i could have she didnt have a clue yet i showed her my reg cert when she very first came to visit and is up one the wall above my computer
so the parents who use this minder probably dont have a clue either
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Post by miffy on Oct 17, 2007 20:38:36 GMT
I've just read the story and I do remember this because it made the national news - it was the bit about being unable to remember some of the children's names that I remember.
Maybe she arranged for parents to do initial visit when she didn't have any children but how strange that no parent ever thought to query the number of children she had with her.
It's sad we get more bad press than good.
Miffy
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Post by manjay on Oct 17, 2007 21:35:30 GMT
It was in Child Care Magazine a few months ago too
Amanda xx
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Post by charleyfarley on Oct 17, 2007 22:12:53 GMT
OMG
Who in their right mind would want to look after 15 children.
I love my job but I couldn't cope with that many children.
Most I've had was 8 that was hard work during holidays.
It's always the bad eggs that make the news, never us good childminders.
Carol xx
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Post by buildingblocks on Oct 18, 2007 12:13:52 GMT
Hard situation to be in and can only give the same sort of advice as every one else on here.
I was once in the situation that I was asked by a minder how I managed to go ove rmy numbers. I said I never did. She said you must do how do you cope with the summer holidays.
Don't get me wrong a lovely lady who meant well but the child she was talking about taking over her numbers was an ex mindee of mine (mum now a friend). Told mum straight away so she didn't send her son.
I felt awkward as I am a professinal as every one on here is and I do feel that childminders who go over their numbers/break regulkations, etc need to be stopped. But I wouldn't want to be the one to report anyone n matter how sure I was of the facts.
in this case I couldn't ignore it as I had also inherited two mindees whose mum I knew and who wasn't happy with this minder - children were being walked to school by 16 yr old son, always late for school, etc. Still Icouldn't tell Ofsted so at the time I was on the local Network so I spoke to my coordinator and told her the situation without mentioning any names and asked her what I ought to do. As it was I didn't need to as she told me the name and said they were aware and trying to sort it.
Is there any one like a development worker/network coordinator that you feel you could talk to confidentially about your concerns. Hopefully they will do more then my local EY did in the end,
love Kate
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Post by bella on Oct 19, 2007 18:12:46 GMT
hi i decided to try and talk to the other minder as she is a friend i told her that people at the school had been asking about my numbers her reply was that she was within her numbers and she had nothing to worry about but you know when someone is lyeing but the look of worry on there face well she had it..
hopefully that may make her think about what she is doing still a little worried about why her other 2 children arnt in her report
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Post by miffy on Oct 19, 2007 20:57:25 GMT
Now you've broached the subject could you talk to her again about why her own children aren't mentioned in her report?
You could say you'd read the report on line but it only mentioned one child.
Otherwise I think you've done all you can.
Perhaps you'll have to wait and see she does next, if anything
Miffy
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Post by niecynoo on Oct 20, 2007 10:13:37 GMT
Hi bella
Have u done anythin about this awful situation yet ?
Personally if your sure on the information you know then i would definately contact ofsted , If she's as bad as she sounds i'd give my name as well !!!
You could always tell Ofsted your a parent from the school & your concerned about the amount of children she has with her
Hope you find a solution
Denise xxx
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Post by niecynoo on Oct 20, 2007 10:17:44 GMT
What a ding bat !!!!! just read next page & read you've spoken to her sorry stil gettin used to site lol I'll go read it al properly now  Denise xxx |
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Post by niecynoo on Oct 20, 2007 10:35:25 GMT
Rite read them now  If because of u this woman is stopped u shud be very proud of yourself Bella too many people ignore wots goin on around them then when a fatality happens we al sit and wonder y nothing was ever done or noticed Denise xxx |
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Post by banana on Oct 20, 2007 10:40:21 GMT
I have to agree with whats been said on both sides. You need to get the facts right before reporting her but also that if you do fond out for definate then you have a responsibility as another childminder to report her
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Post by loum on Oct 29, 2007 15:59:12 GMT
My opinion:
Any complaint would be totally anonymous, I also think it's unfair to call you a tattle tail Bella, for wanting to protect children.
If this minder has nothing to hide, she has nothing to worry about!
At the end of the day it's a child protection issue imo - and we all have a responsibility to take action.
If everyone buried their head in the sand and didn't want to get involved, well I dread to think what could happen.
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Post by bella on Oct 29, 2007 16:06:23 GMT
your not going to believe this saw the minder again today and she had 11 children that i counted (she did have an assistant)
surely thats far to many oh by the way 8 were under 5
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Post by theresa on Oct 29, 2007 16:27:18 GMT
hi bella, i've read the whole of this thread and this is what i think lol
I had a week's work trial at a nursery in july, i didn't like the way they were treating the kids and after a lot of soul searching decided to report them to ofsted. i like you wasn't sure if it was the right thing to do, but boy am i glad i did, they were done for emotional abuse, just think what might have happened in the future if i had not. Also ofsted did not do the inspection it was children's services and then it was passed on to ofsted.
If you believe that the childminder is over her numbers and the children may not be getting the care that they are entitled to then you must report her to ofsted, nothing is more important then the safeguarding of children. You don't have to mention your name or the fact you're a minder, if you do happen to give your name they will ask you if you wish to remain anonymous. You must do what you think is right.
xxx
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