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ofsted
Oct 2, 2006 20:35:52 GMT
Post by tomy12 on Oct 2, 2006 20:35:52 GMT
hi all. i currently look after a 6 mth old. and have a call from 2 mums tonite enquiring for their daughthers who are 6mths ,2years and 3 years. would i will not be having them all day but would i be able to go over my numbers if i write to ofsted. so i would have a 6mth old,2yr and 3 year all at the same time. i understand i can't have 2 under one. fingers crossed they are comming to meet me on thurs eve together as they are friends claire
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ofsted
Oct 3, 2006 8:38:24 GMT
Post by Pauline on Oct 3, 2006 8:38:24 GMT
Hi Claire,
What are you registered for? Usually you can have 3 under five's so you would be OK if that's what you are registered for. Or did you mean you would need to have the two 6 month olds at the same time?
Ofsted will sometimes let you go over numbers, it all depends on how long you have been minding, your grade, your qualifications and for how long you would be over numbers.
I would phone Ofsted as soon as possible to find out what they say so that you know before the parents come on Thursday.
Hope that helps.
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ofsted
Oct 3, 2006 10:03:32 GMT
Post by cait on Oct 3, 2006 10:03:32 GMT
I know someone who was allowed to go over numbers but it was with school age children, not sure on the rules with little ones.
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ofsted
Oct 4, 2006 12:01:23 GMT
Post by tomy12 on Oct 4, 2006 12:01:23 GMT
i have a daughter who is 2 years old and the ladies who are comming on thurs want me to have their dd'd who are 2yrs and 3yrs. the ladie with the 3yesr old it would be every afternoon. and the other mum has a 2yr and a 6mth old. the 6 mth old would be one day a week and the 2 yr old 2 days a week all day. so if i have say the 6mth adn 2year old i would not beable to have the 3 year old aswell. i know i can't have 2 under one at the same time.i am hopping it will work out like this. 6mth and 2yr on mon & tues then have the 3yr old on weds and thurs with the other mindee i have who is 6mths then have the 2 and 3yr on a friday.but things never work out as you plan.
claire
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ofsted
Oct 5, 2006 9:06:11 GMT
Post by babbs on Oct 5, 2006 9:06:11 GMT
That will be great if it works out for you - good luck tonight!! Barbara
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ofsted
Oct 6, 2006 8:17:40 GMT
Post by tomy12 on Oct 6, 2006 8:17:40 GMT
hi all. surprise surprise did not work out. i would have to go over my numbers on a weds and fri as they wanted me to have them all. 6mth ol,2yr and 3yr.but can't as i already have a dd who is 2yrs. they want me to contact ofsted to see if i can have it changed to allow this. as its only two days a week.
do i just phone them or do i need to write?? what do you think my chances are of this happening? thanks claire
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ofsted
Oct 6, 2006 8:18:44 GMT
Post by tomy12 on Oct 6, 2006 8:18:44 GMT
the 6mth old i currently look after will not be with me on a weds after xmas this is when they want it to start.
claire
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ofsted
Oct 6, 2006 13:01:07 GMT
Post by Pauline on Oct 6, 2006 13:01:07 GMT
do i just phone them or do i need to write?? what do you think my chances are of this happening? thanks claire Funnily enough I've just spoke to someone in a similar position and she phoned Ofsted to ask and they said they can't do anything over the phone and she had to put it all in writing to them. So, that sounds like it would be the best thing for you to do and see what they say.
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ofsted
Oct 7, 2006 16:52:14 GMT
Post by nannynick on Oct 7, 2006 16:52:14 GMT
Your situation as I see it: Your own child: dd aged 2 Parent A: dd aged 2 (2 days), dd? 6mths (1 day) Parent B: dd aged 3 (5 afternoons) Parent A should be fine... as you can care for 3 children under 5, of which 1 can be under 1 - I presume you have a standard registration (check your certificate for precise wording) Parent B would push you over numbers on occasion. Ofsted in my view will not permit it. I also feel they would not allow a variation to your registration to permit this, as there is not a sibling issue. I doubt Ofsted will permit the variation, as although there is a sibling issue for Parent A, you could just not take on child of Parent B If Ofsted granted the variation then this would allow a ratio of ages of children in your care to be beyond that set out in the current National Standards relating to Child Minding and specified in the Guidance to the National Standards issued by OFSTED Revision 2 dated February 2004. -- Quote from Revision 2-- In exceptional circumstances you may care for more than three children aged under five. You must make a separate request on each occasion where you wish to do this. You must write into your regional centre and identify clearly the specific children for whom you are making the request with full details of how you intend to meet the needs of the children. Ofsted will make decisions based on the individual circumstances of each request. We will only consider such requests for time-limited arrangements involving: • siblings • continuity of care for children from the same family. If your request is successful Ofsted will issue you with a certificate setting a new or varied condition that details the numbers of children that you may care for. This condition of registration only applies while you are caring for the particular children identified on your request. If any of these children or your care arrangements change then you must tell your Ofsted regional centre. You may not care for more than three children aged under five on a permanent basis. -- End Quote -- In my view, as both families are new, there is not a continuity of care issue. You have to just decide which family you will take on.
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ofsted
Oct 8, 2006 10:43:18 GMT
Post by Pauline on Oct 8, 2006 10:43:18 GMT
Hi Nick,
I did know of one minder once who was allowed to have 4 under 5's without a sibling/continuity of care issue.
If my memory serves me well it was mainly because the parent also wrote to Ofsted explaining that she could not find another minder who could offer the same standard of care she was looking for within the radius she wanted from her work place.
The minder in question was able to show how she would cope and what she would do in an emergency situation. She was also a qualified nursery nurse and had been minding for some considerable years.
I think Ofsted take each case on it's merit and you also need to be able to put your case to them really well and, as you suggest, it's a rare occurance when they do allow it.
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