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Post by shirlwith3 on Feb 21, 2007 16:21:25 GMT
I texted the dad of the child on Fri as I am still waiting for Feb's to be paid saying that they were overdue & had he seen the letter in his sons bag got a text back saying thought we could pay in installments texted back yes you can then got a text back saying when was the 1st installment due I texted back asap, well I am still waiting so tomorrow he will get a invoice for both Feb's & March fees plus a £5 Late payment fee, which will be for over £800. We were depending on Feb fees to pay bills, also this Fri is my other half's last day in the army so the money is much needed. If I don't get paid for both Feb & March fees by the 1st March I will refuse minding the child. do you think I being mean say that?
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Post by debratina on Feb 21, 2007 16:30:58 GMT
hi are you with the NCMA? if you are get in touch with them straight away. they have a legal team who will get the money for you. if you decided to keep on this child change contracts insist that they pay weekly and it needs to be a week in advance. all my parents pay me every week. i have worked in a nursery where parents were owing over £1000 and they were told their child had to stop coming. it sounds like you have bent over backwards for this family now its time to get tough. you hard worked damn hard for your money and it sounds like the are taking you for a ride. ncma 0845 880 0044 good luck debra
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Post by angeldelight on Feb 21, 2007 17:12:49 GMT
Oh Shirl I hope you sort this out
It makes my problem of one day payment seem really pathetic
I can not believe that they owe you that much money what the hell are they playing at
£5 late fee that sounds very low I think you should charge them more
I would tell them if they do not pay you by the of the week then no more childcare why the hell should you give them till the 1st March seems you have given enough time now and I would do as Debra suggested and contact whoever you are insured with
I never have monthly payments any more because of parents like yours I always have weekly and in advance I have one parent that pays monthly by cheque and she pays me the week before it is due to enable me to cash it in time for the due date
I am getting clever since coming on here ha
I really hope you get your money it is a lot to do without I really do not know how the parents have the cheek to come and face you when they bring their child knowing they owe you that much money
Good luck Let us know how how it goes please
Angel xx
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Post by Pauline on Feb 21, 2007 17:21:38 GMT
You are not being mean in the least Shirl, in fact you have been very patient.
Debra's advice is good, get in touch with NCMA and find out what help you can get. Most of all make sure the parents understand that the money is your wages and you need it yesterday!
If they ask again when it's due don't say asap say TODAY!
Good luck, hope you get it sorted.
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Post by heldraincloud on Feb 21, 2007 18:05:10 GMT
Oh Shirl that is a huge amount of money!!!!! I dont know how the parents can sleep at night knowing the owe you that.......I hope someone can help at the NCMA, do keep us posted
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Post by angeldelight on Feb 22, 2007 22:14:14 GMT
Did you give the dad the invoice Shirl if so what happened?
I hope you have told them no fees no childcare !!!
Let us know
Angel xx
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Post by shirlwith3 on Feb 23, 2007 13:17:36 GMT
I spoke mum today just to remind her AGAIN that Feb fees are still due, ws told she would talk to hubby & that she was not dure if they would be able to pay full fees for feb & March fees too. so Iphoned MCNA legal advice line and told what has been happening & that I have tried to help them pay Feb fees, so asked if I was right in refusing to mind their little boy if I don't receive any money by the 1st march, was TOLD YES I CAN.
I am going to give them one more chance and say that 1/2 of Febs fees and the whole of March fees to be PAID by the 1st March & pay the other 1/2 of of Feb fees with Aprils fees which too will be paid in full, then if they are not happy with that I will say well I am not having your little boy. Another good thing is both parents are in the army so if I still have problems I can go to the army & get the money that way.
another thing that is with them is that on Firdays on the contract it says till 12.30 they never tell me if I can have him longer till 5pm, so far I don't have things planned but I do sometimes go to my friends for a cuppa and a chat.
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Post by angeldelight on Feb 23, 2007 16:54:03 GMT
Hi Shirl
I am sorry that you are still waiting for your money it is such a lot too
Have they actually given you a real reason why they have not paid you? Do they seem bothered do you think they seem worried about it? I think they have got one hell of a cheek to expect you to continue minding for their son
How many hours do you actually have their little boy ? If you do not mind him any more I guess that sort of money is hard to do without , not that your getting it though at the moment are you!
I would guess that you have left it and left it and given them chance after chance because you do not want to lose this job? We all do it and I for one have been guilty of it in the past Once you give them one chance though that is it they usually take advantage even more
The more childminding you do for them the more they are going to owe you so it is just not worth it I would put it in writing that you are going to have to stop minding from the 1st March due to late fees
Can you just explain what you mean by the last paragraph of your post? Sorry If I am a little slow but I am not sure what you mean Do you mean that on a Friday he is contracted till 12.30 but they sometimes do not turn up till 5 without asking you in advance Is that what you meant ?
Angel x
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Post by ajs on Feb 23, 2007 23:45:54 GMT
hi shirl the problem with telling the family you won't continue minding for the child is that you've very little chance of ever getting the money from them unless you really don't want to continue with the child. you can always claim from the small claims court the money that she owes you. don't forget to include the scc charge i think it's £30
at xmas i was owed from one mum over £600 i asked her to pay it by the end of december and lied to her saying that i wasn't allowed to go over to a new year with a debt. she said that she couldn't afford the whole amount but offered to pay £100 a week until the debt was cleared and now she's nearly in credit. i decided that a late payer was better then not having the child at all as some money each week was better then none.
i was surprised at how little your penalty was though i always charge 10% of the debt. good luck whatever you decide to do though
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Post by shirlwith3 on Feb 24, 2007 7:34:34 GMT
I spoke to mum yesterday when she collected her child over an hour late , she said yes to paying 1/2 of Feb's fees and the whole of March fees & pay the other 1/2 of of Feb fees with Aprils fees.
I do wish they were like the parents of the other lo I mind part time they paid for the 3 days I had him this week in advance but as I had the little boy an extra 15-20mins mum gave me another £3 for it. I was very surprise, both her & her husband are very different to the parents of the other mindee, they seem more maturer, where the dad of the her child is bit of jack the lad & a bit cheeky as he texted me yesterday asking "if I could drop his son of had his house" well i texted back "NO" what am I a taxi service?
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Post by angeldelight on Feb 24, 2007 10:11:45 GMT
Shirl
Are you letting this mom continue to bring her child so you will get the money that is owed to you ? Say if she never pays you and you continue to work for nothing then she will owe you even more ?
I think you need to get tough
They are being very mean and horrible to you and using your kindness to their own advantage
An hour late , do not stand for it !!!!
Asking you to drop the boy off .. do not stand for it !!!!
If they are due to pay you some money then wait till that date and if they do not pay do not let this continue
Think about it you said they are crying out for childminders by you , why don't you advertise, get another child and bloody get rid of these people At least then you will be working for something
Honestly I can have my say and speak my mind but I am never nasty and during all my childminding days I have really had some horrible parents I have let things slide " just because I don't like to be mean " and because I am too soft
But I hate to see it happen to others !
Since coming here though it has really helped, I think it is the fact that everyone else does what I know I SHOULD be doing so it makes it easier to know they are the RULES if you know what I mean and that I have support here .
I am sure everyone here would agree with me get rid of them you have given them enough chances now and to be an hour late well for once I am speechless !!!!
Get your email address to me and I will get back to you
Angel xx
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Post by shirlwith3 on Feb 24, 2007 10:18:24 GMT
Anel my email is dave1508@tiscali.co.uk
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Post by Pauline on Feb 24, 2007 13:59:25 GMT
When are they actually going to hand over the first installment of the money Shirl?
If I were you I would get it immediately and not keep letting them put it off.
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Post by shirlwith3 on Feb 26, 2007 18:16:33 GMT
Well dad spoke to me today said he was going to pay the whole of march fees & 1/2 Feb fees Wed & Thurs.
He also said that he & his wife (both in the army) are splitting up, so I might be losing the little boy depending on who gets custody (both or either one parent, dad did say he will keep me informed.
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Post by Pauline on Feb 26, 2007 20:58:36 GMT
That's good news, hope they come up with the money on Wed/Thurs
Sad they are breaking up.
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Post by shirlwith3 on Mar 1, 2007 17:14:58 GMT
I got the payment today!!! had to remind dad to drop it of today as I ahd been waiting in for him to pop it in. I should find out what is happening with the minde on Monday weather they are splitting up if so who has custordy of little boy. At least I got paid
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Post by Pauline on Mar 1, 2007 17:24:35 GMT
I'm so happy for you Shirl, well done on being so persistent. Don't spend it all at once!
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Post by angeldelight on Mar 1, 2007 17:56:31 GMT
That is really good news Shirl so what you buying me haha
I bet you will have no money left when you have paid the things that you should have paid ages ago
I hope they continue to pay you when they are expected to now
Angel x
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Post by shirlwith3 on Mar 1, 2007 18:05:28 GMT
I am off to London early Saturday morning to buy a Renault Espace, Dave decided that I needed one due to having 3 toddlers & have a school run to do plus if I wanted to take my 3 plus the 2 mindes out I wouldn't have been able to.
Thanks for all your support
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Post by angeldelight on Mar 1, 2007 18:07:32 GMT
Wow lucky you , what a good week it was for your birthday then
Have a nice time
Angel x
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