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Post by mel on Sept 10, 2007 15:14:47 GMT
Hi guys I know this has been brought up before as to whether we can start using the EYFS framework and that replies from ofsted have varied. Apparently, after trying to speak to them again today, I was informed that although I would be inspected on the Birth to Three criteria, I was unable to obtain a copy of this as they were now out of print and wouldn't be being printed again as the EYFS packs were now replacing them. Luckily I have a copy of B23 from a friend but I did ask them how I could be graded on something I hadn't received and they had no answer for that one! Another example of Ofsteds red tape  Mel x |
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Post by rach30 on Sept 10, 2007 19:50:27 GMT
To be honest i'm working with eyfs as i find it easier to understand . But i think they are very similar . AS i've just started minding i didn't see the point of struggling to get my head around B23 when i've got to comply to eyfs next year . but when i was looking over my daily records for waht i had done with the baby i mind over a 6 week period i had pretty much covered all the relevant stuff in B23 with out even trying . I think we do most of it in every day stuff without realising . Feel like i'm waffling and contrdicting myself !!! lol . i'm tiered  ;D |
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Post by rubybubbles on Sept 10, 2007 20:01:42 GMT
I've followed BT3 up till now, but as the mindies are changing in October I'm focusing on the EYFS
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Post by sarahnev707 on Sept 11, 2007 12:43:37 GMT
Ofsted told me in a letter they are perfectly happy with me using EYFS and since I've just been inspected, that's what I'm doing.... trouble is, nobody has been trained yet and I think there's a general worry we'll go off and do our own thing so everyone will be doing something different.... Sarahx  |
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Post by rubybubbles on Sept 11, 2007 12:46:22 GMT
I never had any training with the B23 till I started my NVQ and still had more idea than some of the B23 creche people ;D
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Post by rach30 on Sept 11, 2007 21:17:58 GMT
Just as i think i've got my head around eyfs i pick it up again and it baffles me ! lol . Got training next month tho so hopefully it might make sense . Then again............ |
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Post by taiwallis on Nov 23, 2007 13:19:06 GMT
i have spoken to OFSTED this afternoon. they say that if you are inspected between now and october 2008 you will be inspected on national standards and b23. They have said that the EYFS is not in place and should not be used. They said you should ONLY familiarise yourselves with it, not actually use it. I personally think this is rediculous as i have been trained on EYFS, never got a space on B23 and now i have to wait a whole year before i am allowed to implement it - by which time i will have probably forgotton it.
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Post by jo on Nov 23, 2007 21:04:22 GMT
Its all very confusing isn't it! Hopefully it will be a lot more streight forward. Just hopin between then and now they don't bring out addendums! I haven't got any of the EYFS stuff yet, I should get it sent off for really!- when I can prize myself off here!
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Post by rubybubbles on Nov 24, 2007 16:57:21 GMT
i have spoken to OFSTED this afternoon. they say that if you are inspected between now and october 2008 you will be inspected on national standards and b23. They have said that the EYFS is not in place and should not be used. They said you should ONLY familiarise yourselves with it, not actually use it. I personally think this is rediculous as i have been trained on EYFS, never got a space on B23 and now i have to wait a whole year before i am allowed to implement it - by which time i will have probably forgotton it. x The local day care centre took EYFS in pratice in Sept this year! I phoned up on this and was told the same as you, but from Sept 08 EYFS will be used!! Before then the National Standards are to be used! I think they don't even know yet!! My asessor for my NVQ is worried as when it comes in all the NVQ stuff will be switching too and she's had no training yet! |
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Post by deeb66 on Nov 25, 2007 17:19:32 GMT
The reason it is best not to use it is that the inspectors haven't had their training yet!!!
Their training starts from March/April 2008 ready to implement by September. So if they inspect you and you are already working to EYFS then they won't even know what they are looking at hence the reason you have been told to work to B23 and the National Standards.
If you have fairly recently had an inspection and you do not think you will come up again in this cycle (new cycle starts in September) then there is no reason why you can't implement and work to EYFS now - but if you are waiting to be inspected then you need to still work to B23 and National Standards.
Hope this helps
Dee
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