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Post by janet on Jun 26, 2007 13:14:33 GMT
just been to toddlers this morning, and one of the childminders there has said that from march 08 registered childminders cant look after there grandchild as a registered childminder, this doesnt affect me but will do for a friend of mine does any1 know if this is correct xxx
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Post by deeb66 on Jun 26, 2007 13:33:46 GMT
Hi Janet
I have to say I haven't heard that one and would be interested to know if it is correct or not.
Anyone else heard this?
Dee
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Post by angeldelight on Jun 26, 2007 13:34:59 GMT
I have not heard of this
I will look into it though because next year my daughter hopes to go to college so I would be the person to mind her children
As long as you are registered does it matter who you mind ??
Angel xx
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Post by deeb66 on Jun 26, 2007 13:37:06 GMT
I wouldn't have thought it mattered as long as you were registered ....have to say I am confused Dee
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Post by lorraine2767 on Jun 26, 2007 14:43:26 GMT
Hi Never heard that one, but would be interested to know as I know someone who looks after their granddaughter. Lorraine x
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Post by janet on Jun 26, 2007 14:45:39 GMT
just seen the girl at school and she has given me a bit of paper saying grandparents caring for their own grandchildren need not be registered, and if they are registered, they cannot act as a registered childminder in relation to them. you can only act as a registered childminder to children to whom you are not related.
i will ring childminding group and check be back in a bit xxx
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Post by manjay on Jun 26, 2007 14:52:24 GMT
What!!! Is this another one of OFSTEDs weird and wonderful rules!!!
We had grandparents on our ICP course registering specifically to look after their grandchildren.
Amanda xx
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Post by mel on Jun 26, 2007 14:53:51 GMT
I can see your point in how you relate to them but surely they still take up part of your registered quota. Or do they take them off your quota like they do your own children? How confusing Mel
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Post by janet on Jun 26, 2007 15:01:05 GMT
found out ..... they are getting a lot of people registering to look after their own grandchildren, the grandparents have to be willing to take on other children not just their grandchildren, i then asked what if they couldnt get other children for a period of time as we all know sometimes it is not that easy to pick up children at first. ofsted give you 3 years if you have not picked up other children by then the registration will be canceled.cancellation of registration means a person is disqualified from providing childcare or any other registered childcare in the future, unless ofsted agrees to waive the disqualification. the application process for reversal of disqualification can take some time.
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Post by janet on Jun 26, 2007 15:05:49 GMT
the grandchildren are counted in your childminding ratio, better go not being a good childminder here one boy has just shouted "janet can you come off the computer and get me some felt pens please see you all later xxxx
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Post by angela234 on Jun 26, 2007 15:22:08 GMT
I was told when i registered that i could look after my grandchildren as long as i minded other children as well, which i do .
There have been times when have only had my grandchildren but i was activly looking to take on others.
I went into childminding to look after my grandchildren i know i will continue to mind when the grandchildren are at school i love the job i just wish i had done it years ago.
Angela
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Post by angeldelight on Jun 26, 2007 16:04:25 GMT
I think it is all very weird
If childminders just want to mind their own grandchildren why should they mind other children if they do not want too??
Some childminders choose to only mind a child or two anyway so why should it matter if it is other children or your grandchildren?
I am confused by the whole thing
Angel xx
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Post by angela234 on Jun 26, 2007 17:37:03 GMT
I understand what your saying Angel if i didn't mind my grandchildren they would have to go to another childminder or nursery.
I mind 2 grandchildren 4 days a week so it doesn't leave a lot of spaces, but i have to mind others good job 2 of my grandchildren are now at school (5 & 6 year olds)
Angela
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Post by Bella on Jun 26, 2007 18:04:51 GMT
How do Ofsted know if the children are your grandchildren or not? (Often the names are different). Are they going to ask all childminders of the relationship (if any) they have with the minded children?
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Post by angeldelight on Jun 26, 2007 18:30:05 GMT
Yes Bella you are right
If this happens to be true then I am sorry but I would not lie but I would not tell the truth either
I would not say they were my grandchildren ( and hope that they did not call me nanny haha )
Angel xx
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Post by martianshavelanded on Jun 27, 2007 11:13:39 GMT
I would imagine that many parents have only become regisitered to look after their own grandchildren purely so that their own children (the parents) can then draw down the working tax credit available to them thus giving families more pennies.
As working tax guidelines state that a regisitered childcarer has to be used in order to claim?
I may be wrong here but think I have the gist of it correct?? although someone else may know different?
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Post by son77 on Jun 27, 2007 13:50:06 GMT
Yes I also read this, I think it was in 'who minds'. Also talks about resigning as a childminder if you want to take a break because if you don't then they will take you off the register & if ofsted do that it is very difficult to start back up again. I shall try & find the article.
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Post by nannan on Jun 27, 2007 18:44:22 GMT
:Dhi I'm a grandmother and registered so that I could care officially for my grandchildren, even given up a good office job for them, nobody told me that I would have to take on other children, even at my first inspection I wasnt told that, and I mentioned that I was only doing this for my grandchildren, looks like ofsted are moving the goal posts yet again.
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Post by son77 on Jun 27, 2007 21:24:37 GMT
Heres the article
However, voluntary resignation of your registration does not disqualify a person from applying to Ofsted again in the future. A childminder who resigns their registration now will be able to apply directly to Ofsted as soon as they decide they want to register again to provide childcare. And because they have previously been registered, it may be possible for Ofsted to process any future application more quickly.
In addition, voluntarily resigning from registration means that the annual fee to Ofsted will not be payable. Childminders who retain their registration, even if they do not intend to look after children, will still have to pay this fee.
Ofsted must inspect all childminding settings by March 2008, regardless of whether or not children are being cared for. With no children in the setting at the time of inspection, Ofsted cannot usually judge the provision as being any better than satisfactory.
****Grandparents caring only for their own grandchildren need not be registered, and if they are registered, they cannot act as a registered childminder in relation to them. You can only act as a registered childminder to children to whom you are not related.***
If you have not cared for children (on roll) for some time, and do not plan to care for children in the near future, you should consider resigning your registration with a view to reapplying for registration in the future if necessary.
If you have received a letter from Ofsted and decide that you no longer wish to be registered as a childminder, you can resign your registration by completing and returning the reply slip attached to the letter. If you have any questions about the contents of the letter, please call Ofsted on 08456 404040. You can also call NCMA's information line on 0800 169 4486.
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Post by luciawak on Jun 28, 2007 7:33:45 GMT
Hi
I'm really confused and probably being stupid. Are you supposed to register just to look after your own grandchildren whether or not you intend to have other children? When I decided to become registered I had already made the decision to have other children but reading Nannan's post it looks like she originally registered just to look after her grandchildren.
Lucia X
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Post by nannan on Jun 28, 2007 11:56:52 GMT
Hi grandparents don't need to register to look after their own grandchildren, and I was told you dont need to register if you look after the children in their own homes, I did it at the time purely because I didnt think it was fair on my grandchildren to miss out of any fun that was going on which I didnt know about it, i.e say with the network, if I wasnt in it then we could not have gone to the picnic we went to the other week, if your own child or grandchild was to have an accident then you wouldnt need to record it, or if on your insurance your own child or grandchild broke something then that wouldnt be covered, I'm glad that I have the mindees as well as my own I dont need to do all the work with my own like I do with the mindees, i.e. b23 and so on but I do anyway, mandy
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